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[Scott Seufert]

on 7/17/00 10:17 AM, Jonathan Morton at chromi at cyberspace.org wrote:

>> I'm not an expert in mail transport, but don't many applications use
>> sendmail because it's easy and RFC compliant? It's seems to me that every
>> app/script I have ever seen that has any form of mail option uses sendmail
>> or has an SMTP server option. Especially since sendmail is a SMTP server.
>> 
>> I personally would not like to see services act as an SMTP server in any
>> since of the word. The use of Sendmail is very common place, and for those
>> that do not or can not use sendmail to have an SMTP server option plus the
>> option to NOT use the mail and use the GETPASS command, should be defined in
>> the conf or an ifdef in ./configure.
> 
> My suggestion was to make Services act as an SMTP _client_ not a server.  This
> is extremely easy to implement.  All MTAs are SMTP servers which can talk to
> each other, and SMTP clients can talk to them very easily.  Example session:
> 
>>>> 220 helium.chromatix.org.uk ESMTP Exim 3.15 #2 Mon, 17 Jul 2000 15:02:02
>>>> +0100
> <<< HELO irc.network.org
>>>> 250 helium.chromatix.org.uk Hello dolphin.chromatix.org.uk [10.38.239.105]
> <<< MAIL FROM: services at irc.network.org
>>>> 250 <services at irc.network.org> is syntactically correct
> <<< RCPT TO: chromi at cyberspace.org
>>>> 250 <chromi at cyberspace.org> is syntactically correct
> <<< DATA
>>>> 354 Enter message, ending with "." on a line by itself
> <<< Subject: Your password
> <<<
> <<< Your password was requested by use of the SENDPASSWORD command.  Here it
> is.
> <<<
> <<< >>>>  yourpassword  <<<<
> <<< .
>>>> 250 OK id=13EBVF-0001vi-00
> <<< quit
>>>> 221 Bye-bye!
> 
> .. where >>> precedes a line sent by the server, and <<< precedes one sent by
> the client.  Note the blank line separating the Subject: header from the
> message body.  Completely RFC compliant and easy to implement.  Also notice my
> MTA (in the 'greeting' line) is not Sendmail, but another popular alternative
> called Exim.  No problem if the mail-sending routines are implemented in "SMTP
> client" form but a potential PITA [pain in the a**] if you wanted to use
> command-line sending.  Obviously some error-handling must be built in
> (500-series numbers in particular mean a rejected delivery) but this is pretty
> trivial.

I can see that then, thank you for clearing that up :)


Scott


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