Have finally managed to get a copy of Services installed, using the 5.0.16 RPM. The 5.x source packages refused to compile when they got to the modules section. Anyway, I've got this installed, and when I try to run it: $ /usr/sbin/ircservices FATAL: kernel too old Aborted Kernel version is 2.2.16 2.2.16 isn't all THAT old - what's going on? Thanks, Charlie