[IRCServices] Feature Request - SVSMODE vs SVS2MODE with Unreal

[Craig McLure]

I agree with this, also, at the end of the day, 90% of users dont want to know they are +r, and probably 70% of them dont even know what +r is. I cant (personally) see any practical use for it. Generally the message 'Password accepted, you are now identified, have a nice day' is enough to say they have identified properly. If they really wanted to know, as has been mentioned by everyone before they can do a /mode. If someone can give me five valid reasons why a user should know that they have had the +r mode added, i'd concider thinking about it more. Untill then, i'm personally happy with SVSMODE.

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 * Subject - Re: [IRCServices] Feature Request - SVSMODE vs SVS2MODE with Unreal
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>     I agree with Yusuf here--since the user can get their modes with /mode
>anyway, there's no sense in having a command that hides the change from
>them.  And even if there was, every other ircd with SVSMODE informs the
>user upon an SVSMODE mode change, so if Unreal is going to make two
>commands, they should make SVS2MODE the one that doesn't inform the user.
>So the official answer is no, I'm not going to modify Services to support
>this Unreal feature; if it bothers you, bug the Unreal developers until
>they change/remove it.  (I'll be sending a message their way myself.)
>
>  --Andrew Church
>    achurch at achurch.org
>    http://achurch.org/
>
>>The view at the other end (the Unreal coders) is that it's
>>a Services issue and not an ircd one. I tend to share that
>>view - by having Services giving the option to choose
>>between SVSMODE and SVS2MODE, it gives the end user much
>>more choice.
>>
>>Unfortunately, judging by your reply, it looks like (for
>>now anyway) the only solution will be to manually modify
>>the unreal protocol module so that it uses SVS2MODE instead
>>of SVSMODE. I'm not sure that everyone out there will have
>>the necessary skill or programming knowledge to do that.
>>
>>K.T
>>
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>>Message: 4
>>Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 16:54:57 +0100
>>From: Yusuf Iskenderoglu <uhc0 at rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>
>>Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Feature Request - SVSMODE vs
>>SVS2MODE with
>>Unreal
>>To: IRC Services General Mailing List
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>>Since a user may inform themselves at ANY time using
>>/mode <nickname>
>>which modes they have,
>>
>>it makes absolutely no sense to distinguish between a
>>SVSMODE and
>>SVS2MODE, where the first hides the MODE change from the
>>user, and the
>>latter does not.
>>
>>Please ask your unreal coders to merge the whole content of
>>SVS2MODE
>>into SVSMODE and remove SVS2MODE completely.
>>
>>IMHO, this is a case services shall not handle.
>>
>>Regards;
>>yusuf
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