[IRCServices] Adding features to services

[Chris W.]

Forgive my strange email address. I'm on vacation and my proxy server can 
only use hotmail. Anyway, One way to do this would be perhaps to add a step 
or 2 used for dropping something. Such as an email or a "secret question 
answer" as many places use. So it would go something like:
/msg *Serv drop <nick/channel> <pass> <email> <secret answer>

That would add two more walls for takeovers. I remember, back in my newbie 
days, watching a guy take over a channel. He didn't get the password, or 
drop the channel, etc. He somehow either hacked the host and got aop or 
sop(on DALnet, not your guys services), or he woyld join the channel during 
a services downfall and would gain op by an unsuspecting op and banned 
everyone from the channel. None of these have to do with services. However, 
i think adding a commands like the above would be beneficial to stopping 
this problem via getting channel or nickname passwords. It should be 
optional; however, because some people think that's too much of a hassle. 
Different things for different people, as always. Anyone wanna make a patch, 
that could be approved first by Andrew? Once again, my $.02
-Chris


>From: Rafael Ritter <rafael at kapa.procergs.com.br>
>Reply-To: ircservices at ender.shadowfire.org
>To: ircservices at ender.shadowfire.org
>Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Adding features to services
>Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1999 10:34:58 -0200
>
>In a big network, this may be a problem. My server have +- 5000 users, and
>by removing this two features, we could reduce the problem of stealling
>channels.
>I just wrote this experiment here, because it may be usefull to someone
>with this problems.
>
>Rafael Ritter
>Equipe VIA RS
>
>At 15:37 18/11/99 -0500, you wrote:
> >What do you gain by this? From how I read it, only IRCops can drop
> >channels. That can be a major pain. Users
> >should be able to drop stuff by themselves without having to go ask
> >somebody to do it for them, and getting put on a waiting list for the 
>Opers
> >to get around to dropping their channel. I'm sorry, but if I read this
> >correctly, this isn't a good idea IMHO. I know if I were a user it'd 
>really
> >piss me off.
> >Just my $.02
> >
> >-Chris
> >
> >P.S. I would like to see the aop/sop/av/etc. commands implemented into
> >services in replace of the "dreaded" ACCESS =)
> >
> >----------
> >> From: Rafael Ritter <rafael at kapa.procergs.com.br>
> >> To: ircservices at ender.shadowfire.org
> >> Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Adding features to services
> >> Date: Thursday, November 18, 1999 6:18 AM
> >>
> >> Just a suggestion:
> >> in my server, I had disabled the DROP and SET FOUNDER commands. To use
> >this
> >> command you need to be an IRCop.
> >> This simple change dont let users to stole channels from another users.
> >> They can even stole de password, but the channel's INFO allways will 
>show
> >> the nickname of real founder. If someone, ask for a password or 
>something
> >> relative, you only need to look at channel INFO.
> >>
> >> Rafael Ritter
> >> Equipe VIA RS
> >>
> >> At 11:10 18/11/99 +0200, you wrote:
> >> >
> >> >This is just a quickie based on what I read earlier.
> >> >
> >> >If you're going to add features to ircservices, especially if you 
>intend
> >> >(or atleast, would like) your features to be incorporated into newer
> >> >releases, you MUST make sure ALL your code changes will accomodate ALL
> >> >supported IRCds.
> >> >
> >> >The way Andy originally coded services makes this quite easier... you
> >have
> >> >a number of compile-time directives which compile in the appropriate
> >code
> >> >based on the ircd selected at configuration.
> >> >
> >> >For example:
> >> >
> >> >	#ifdef IRC_DAL4_4_15
> >> >		... code ...
> >> >	#endif
> >> >
> >> >The expressions available are:
> >> >
> >> >	IRC_DALNET, IRC_DAL4_4_15, IRC_CLASSIC,
> >> >	IRC_UNDERNET_NEW, IRC_TS8, IRC_UNDERNET,
> >> >
> >> >Don't suppose anyone is bored and would like to outline the 
>differences
> >> >between these IRCds?  Maybe add it to a programming FAQ for services
> >which
> >> >another bored person could make?
> >> >
> >> >Lastly, I agree with the need for an additional list for the CODING of
> >> >ircservices.  Feature suggestions and things help requests are fine 
>for
> >a
> >> >normal list, but I think a place where people could discuss
> >implementation
> >> >of certain things and what they break, how to fix these things, etc,
> >would
> >> >be constructive.
> >> >
> >> >- Gav
> >> >
> >> >---
> >> >Gaven Cohen aka Kinslayer <dragon at wastelands.net> www.wastelands.net
> >> >freelance sysadmin/programmer HABONIM DROR linux, fantasy enthusiast
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