Yes Ultimate 2.8 is based from the old dreamforge coding and services works with little issues with the Dreamforge compiling feature. However 3.0 is based on Bahamut and I haven't tested the functionality of Services and the new coding myself, However most likely if coded to run with Bahamut it will work. Just my $0.02 since I neither code UltimateIRCd or Services :b Keep up the excellent work Andrew. Alan Carr