AW: AW: AW: [IRCServices] Backup databases?

[Craig McLure]

on the network i was on before e-tidalwave, their main hub had a 400+ day 
uptime. The box wasnt tounched, so all i data (services, backup conf files 
etc) was *ALL* on there, and we eventually forgot about backups and deleted 
old ones.
5 days later (grrrrrrrr) the box went down. It started smoking, and 
everything was lost including the machine.

now if backups can be automated *THRU* services, it will save the hastle of 
this. cron jobs are good, but some boxes dont support them.

--
Craig McLure
Craig at e-tidalwave.org
WaveAdmin on the e-tidalwave IRC Network
Ride the Wave! www.e-tidalwave.org



>From: Duane Groth <duane at groth.net>
>Reply-To: ircservices at ircservices.za.net
>To: Josh <ircservices at ircservices.za.net>
>Subject: Re[2]: AW: AW: AW: [IRCServices] Backup databases?
>Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 06:59:45 +1100
>
>Hello Josh,
>
>Yes that's all good and well, but that is like having your head in the
>sand thinking nothing will ever happen, the server I do have them on
>currently has 100 days approx, last reboot was due to kernel upgrade,
>I'm merely preparing for the worst, in the event something will
>happen, I've been an ISP admin, and server admin too long to know
>better then to be naive about it all.
>
>--
>Best regards,
>  Duane                            mailto:duane at groth.net
>
>Wednesday, November 14, 2001, 11:51:10 PM, you wrote:
>
>J> On 14 Nov 2001, at 7:58, Duane Groth wrote:
>
>J> Its easier having 1 set of services on a really stable box that never
>J> goes down.. but thats only possible if you only have a few or just
>J> yourself knowing the ip to the hub and keep it that way by only
>J> adding c/n's to a couple other hubs and never link client servers
>J> directly to it. we have this setup on my net and it works well.
>
>J> (services hub ircd:)
>J> Server Up 169 days, 11:23:14
>
> >> Hello Georges,
> >>
> >>   As I said originally, I would like to see this feature purely for a
> >>   redundancy point of view, as I have a reasonably setup IRC network,
> >>   the DNS probes the IRC servers and removes dead server
> >>   automatically, I have the IRC servers each setup with multiple hubs,
> >>   so in the event of any one hub dying there is redundancy to keep the
> >>   network together, however I am unable to think of a suitable way of
> >>   making services redundant, and in the event of failure of the
> >>   primary server that it's linking into the network with, for whatever
> >>   reason, a secondary will kick in, with read only, so that people can
> >>   authenticate, but not change details, this is the only single point
> >>   of failure on my network that requires manual intervention.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Best regards,
> >>  Duane                            mailto:duane at groth.net
> >>
> >> Wednesday, November 14, 2001, 7:45:01 AM, you wrote:
> >>
> >> GB> I like the idea of managing nicks through the browser, which is 
>very much
> >> GB> more intuitive for many users who have no knowledge about IRC and 
>only know
> >> GB> that they can type text into their client.
> >> GB> It is really intresting for very small networks who pretend to have 
>a
> >> GB> 'community'. People will be able to share much more information 
>when
> >> GB> registering their nick on the web. This registration can be passed 
>on to
> >> GB> nickserv who uses the same information than in the Userinfo 
>Database on the
> >> GB> web.
> >> GB> People will even be able to change their IRC-Settings in their 
>browser.
> >>
> >> GB> It took me quite a number of hours to hack something like this into 
>services
> >> GB> though, so I would appreciate if there was a possibility (i.e. 
>interface) to
> >> GB> re-organise all this and make it a little more structured.
> >>
> >> GB> Georges
> >>
> >> GB> -----Ursprungliche Nachricht-----
> >> GB> Von: ircservices-admin at ircservices.za.net
> >> GB> [mailto:ircservices-admin at ircservices.za.net]Im Auftrag von Craig 
>McLure
> >> GB> Gesendet: Dienstag, 13. November 2001 21:28
> >> GB> An: ircservices at ircservices.za.net
> >> GB> Betreff: RE: AW: AW: [IRCServices] Backup databases?
> >>
> >>
> >> GB> Lol..
> >> GB> MySQL, does that mean ppl will be able to reg nicks and manage 
>nicks in
> >> GB> their web browser?
> >> GB> Interesting concept :P
> >> GB> But wouldn't that mean pw encryption?
> >>
> >> GB> -----Original Message-----
> >> GB> From: ircservices-admin at ircservices.za.net
> >> GB> [mailto:ircservices-admin at ircservices.za.net] On Behalf Of Duane 
>Groth
> >> GB> Sent: 13 November 2001 20:08
> >> GB> To: ircservices at ircservices.za.net
> >> GB> Subject: Re: AW: AW: [IRCServices] Backup databases?
> >>
> >> GB> Hello,
> >>
> >> GB>   No, but have the option of choosing MySQL for database, or using
> >> GB>   it's own flat file format, the side benefit from this would be 
>easier
> >> GB>   web interfaces with PHP and the like, this unlike some simple
> >> GB>   scripting has to be done in services itself. You should be using 
>scp
> >> GB> or
> >> GB>   similar for the remote archiving anyway, if you employ RSA/DSA 
>keys
> >> GB>   it's 1000x more secure, not to mention easier to script, hell you
> >> GB>   can even setup your remote script to trigger tar/bzip, then the 
>next
> >> GB>   line to scp it off, so that you don't need to have 2 cron 
>processes
> >> GB>   going.
> >>
> >> GB> --
> >> GB> Best regards,
> >> GB>  Duane                            mailto:duane at groth.net
> >>
> >> GB> Wednesday, November 14, 2001, 6:58:11 AM, you wrote:
> >>
> >> GB>> Re,
> >>
> >> GB>> well, MySQL support is nice, but not really suitable for everybody
> >> GB> (e.g.
> >> GB>> users that don't have a MySQL account). The FTP-Upload thing would
> >> GB> probably
> >> GB>> do the job for most people.
> >>
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