[IRCServices] ircservices with hybrid

Andrew Kempe andrewk at isdial.net
Tue May 6 09:00:13 PDT 2003


Excuse the assumptions, but hopefully I'm not swining around too much in the
dark...

I assume by the names of the ircds you've mentioned below that you're using
an ircd that has been customised with a large number of features? If this is
the case, they're probably the reason why your network seems to be consuming
so much bandwidth; hence why you've chosen a more bandwidth optimised ircd.

My question is, if I'm correct about the features and if you've decided to
sacrifice them, why not choose and ircd that has fewer features but is more
compatible with services? Is bahamut as much of a bandwidth hog as these
other ircds appear to be? As a result of their very large userbase, DALnet
have definitely made an effort to make their ircd bandwidth friendly. You'll
probably find that at the (possible) cost of a little more bandwidth, you'll
have far more support and a far longer upgrade path than if you go ahead
with the extensive modifications you'll need to make to hybrid.

Just a thought.

Andrew


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nessun" <Nessun at rizon.net>
To: "IRC Services General Mailing List" <ircservices at ircservices.za.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: [IRCServices] ircservices with hybrid


> on the bandwidth a 1000 user client server is pushing 600 gigs a month
very
> abnormal for us i ran a net before and was pushing 200-300gigs a month on
a
> 2000 user client server both being warez nets. we have tested hybrid to
use
> literally 1/3 the bandwidth for us then viagra ircd(a bug fixed titan
ircd).
> and we 2 coders taht are extremly good at coding hybrid ircd and epona
> problem is my epona coder is too busy atm and hybrid coder trying to do
both
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "CPUMAN" <cpuman2000 at hotmail.com>
> To: "IRC Services General Mailing List" <ircservices at ircservices.za.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 9:35 AM
> Subject: Re: [IRCServices] ircservices with hybrid
>
>
> > Yah I'd have to agree with David on that. A 4,000-5,000 user network
> simply
> > is going to use a good amount of bandwidth. Changing IRCds would make a
> > minute bandwidth improvement at best. That is unless your current IRCd
is
> so
> > unbelievably inefficient that it's wasteful with bandwidth, which is
> > unlikely.
> >
> > As for converting a database it's fairly straight forward I don't
remember
> > the exact details on how to do it atm as I'm about brain dead atm (sleep
> > deprivation :P).
> >
> > I don't recommend you continue trying to hack Epona, unless you and your
> > staff really know what your doing. I've seen some horrific sites of
people
> > modifying services programs and them crashing on an hourly basis.
> >
> > CPUMAN
> > Serenia IRC Network
> > irc.serenia.net
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ballsy" <ballsy at mystical.net>
> > To: "IRC Services General Mailing List" <ircservices at ircservices.za.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 9:08 PM
> > Subject: Re: [IRCServices] ircservices with hybrid
> >
> >
> > > Do you think changing your IRCd will really decrease your
> > > bandwidth utilisation an appreciable amount ?  Granted, I haven't
tested
> > > the differences in b/w utilization across different IRCds, but I would
> > > guess that the main difference you'll see is in CPU and memory usage.
> > >
> > > David
> > >
> > >
> > > Quoth Nessun on May 6 at 01:44,
> > >
> > > > hi i run a net about 4000-5000 users and plan to expand as soon as I
> can
> > change ircd as the one im using is eatcing up excess bandwidth. My plans
> are
> > to change to hybrid which since epona(our current services) doesnt
support
> > hybrid this obviously brings up an issue. I am looking for 1 of 2
options.
> > > >
> > > > 1st would be the best u could help me by knowing someone who has
> > ircservices working with hybrid or would be willing to assist us with it
> and
> > we could convert our database to ircservices
> > > >
> > > > 2. we continue our efforts to mod epona and hybrid to link up with
one
> > another.
> > > >
> > > > 3 is going ok but at this rate taking much too long than needed. Our
> > servers are using about 1 months worth of bandwidth in 20 days so we are
> > forced to either shut them off or pay serious overages. So the decision
we
> > make must be expediant.
> > > >
> > > > Any assist u can give me with this will be very very appreciated. I
> ask
> > that u please email me back even if its to say you dont have the time i
> will
> > understand but prefer to hear that then wait for ever on nothing.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you in advance
> > > >
> > > > Irc.Rizon.Net
> > > > Net Admin
> > > > Nessun
> > > >
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