[IRCServices] IrcServices enforcing +R

[nim at shadowfire.org]

Honestly, i was thing more along the lines of a setting on if the founder wanted services to enforce this behavior on mlock +R or not, which 
should be more simple to accomplish.  Andrew already said he doesnt agree with me on the neccessity of this functionality, so i will just leave
it at that.

Nim

On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 01:08:17AM +0100, Craig McLure wrote:
> I agree with you and Andy, there's also the issue of checking whether
> the user has permission on services side to perform the specific
> invite, for your +R case, it would need to be ensure that the user has
> permission to change the MLOCK on the channel before the invite could
> be allowed, with normal procedure for this being:
> 
> /cs set #channel mlock -R
> /invite user #channel
> *** USER JOINS ***
> /cs set #channel mlock +R
> 
> which adds another level of complexity to what is being asked (Also
> note this would be added for one, maybe two, IRCd(s)).
> 
> What it all comes down to, is I don't believe that the behaviour of an
> IRCd should dictate the behaviour of Services.
> 
> It's just my 2c, and at the end of the day, it comes down to Andy to
> make the final call ;)
> 
> 
> 
> On 28/03/07, Kieron Thwaites <ron2k.za at gmail.com> wrote:
> >You do have a valid point there, however my opinion is that it won't
> >be worth adding the extra complexity to deal with special cases (such
> >as invited users). There's a FAQ entry dealing with a similar issue,
> >although I'm uncertain whether or not Andrew would extend it to
> >something like this.
> >
> >Incidentally, Services exhibits this behaviour in other cases as well.
> >If you /invite a user who's on the channel AKICK list, for example,
> >Services will still kick the user out, even if the user was able to
> >walk though bans set by Services because of said /invite.
> >
> >--K
> >
> >On 28/03/07, nim at shadowfire.org <nim at shadowfire.org> wrote:
> >> The problem is, the ircd explicitly allows methods to bypass +R, yet 
> >ircservices doesnt, such as /inviting for instance.
> >>
> >> Also, just my 2 cents worth.
> >>
> >>
> >> Nim
> >>
> >> On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 03:12:25PM +0200, Kieron Thwaites wrote:
> >> > I have to say that I'm in agreement with Andrew here. If you mlock +R,
> >> > you're implying that you want Services to enforce it.
> >> >
> >> > Just my 2 cents worth.
> >> >
> >> > --K
> >> >
> >> > On 28/03/07, nim at shadowfire.org <nim at shadowfire.org> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >>      If ChanServ "joins", you're not using IRC Services.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >19:02 <nim> and
> >> > >19:02 <nim> mlock +R
> >> > >19:02 <mithrandi> done
> >> > >19:02 <nim> just for curiosities sake
> >> > >19:02 -!- ChanServ [services at shadowfire.org] has joined #testquux
> >> > >19:02 -!- mode/#testquux [+b *!mithrandi@*.telkomadsl.co.za] by 
> >ChanServ
> >> > >19:02 -!- mithtest was kicked from #testquux by ChanServ [You are not
> >> > >permitted to be on this channel.]
> >> > >19:02 -!- mode/#testquux [+q mithrandi] by ChanServ
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > ><08:06:17> -!- Irssi: Changed to shadowfire server 65.110.62.93
> >> > ><08:08:30> [shadowfire] -!- [Services.ShadowFire.ORG] 
> >ircservices-5.0.60
> >> > >Services.ShadowFire.ORG build #1, compiled Sat Mar 24 15:02:53 EDT 
> >2007
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >Nim
> >> > >
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