[IRCServices] ircservices with hybrid

Nessun Nessun at rizon.net
Tue May 6 09:07:00 PDT 2003


bahamut was definatly considered as i ran it before on a net i was with. It
was very stable has a memory leak which can be annoying but over all still
uses more bandwidth and cpu then hybrid and i figured if im gonna go through
the trouble of changing y not use the ircd one of the most stable nets there
is especially for there size uses.

also i had been talking with a channel on our net ith 600 xdccs and there
bots were showing up in our firewalls and we could not figure out why it was
taking them as an attack but this morning after some long talks they decided
to move.
our bandwidth on one of our servers went from 400k out and 200k in to 20k in
and 80k out a seriously huge difference that i cannot seem to figure out
why. http://mrtg.corezx.com/ u can see the exact instant they moved there
bots. and yes there xdccs but we have more xdccs then them still on the net
and are using way less abandwidth so not sure what was so special about
there they were only the #3 channel on the net

----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Kempe" <andrewk at isdial.net>
To: "IRC Services General Mailing List" <ircservices at ircservices.za.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [IRCServices] ircservices with hybrid


> Excuse the assumptions, but hopefully I'm not swining around too much in
the
> dark...
>
> I assume by the names of the ircds you've mentioned below that you're
using
> an ircd that has been customised with a large number of features? If this
is
> the case, they're probably the reason why your network seems to be
consuming
> so much bandwidth; hence why you've chosen a more bandwidth optimised
ircd.
>
> My question is, if I'm correct about the features and if you've decided to
> sacrifice them, why not choose and ircd that has fewer features but is
more
> compatible with services? Is bahamut as much of a bandwidth hog as these
> other ircds appear to be? As a result of their very large userbase, DALnet
> have definitely made an effort to make their ircd bandwidth friendly.
You'll
> probably find that at the (possible) cost of a little more bandwidth,
you'll
> have far more support and a far longer upgrade path than if you go ahead
> with the extensive modifications you'll need to make to hybrid.
>
> Just a thought.
>
> Andrew
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Nessun" <Nessun at rizon.net>
> To: "IRC Services General Mailing List" <ircservices at ircservices.za.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 4:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [IRCServices] ircservices with hybrid
>
>
> > on the bandwidth a 1000 user client server is pushing 600 gigs a month
> very
> > abnormal for us i ran a net before and was pushing 200-300gigs a month
on
> a
> > 2000 user client server both being warez nets. we have tested hybrid to
> use
> > literally 1/3 the bandwidth for us then viagra ircd(a bug fixed titan
> ircd).
> > and we 2 coders taht are extremly good at coding hybrid ircd and epona
> > problem is my epona coder is too busy atm and hybrid coder trying to do
> both
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "CPUMAN" <cpuman2000 at hotmail.com>
> > To: "IRC Services General Mailing List" <ircservices at ircservices.za.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 9:35 AM
> > Subject: Re: [IRCServices] ircservices with hybrid
> >
> >
> > > Yah I'd have to agree with David on that. A 4,000-5,000 user network
> > simply
> > > is going to use a good amount of bandwidth. Changing IRCds would make
a
> > > minute bandwidth improvement at best. That is unless your current IRCd
> is
> > so
> > > unbelievably inefficient that it's wasteful with bandwidth, which is
> > > unlikely.
> > >
> > > As for converting a database it's fairly straight forward I don't
> remember
> > > the exact details on how to do it atm as I'm about brain dead atm
(sleep
> > > deprivation :P).
> > >
> > > I don't recommend you continue trying to hack Epona, unless you and
your
> > > staff really know what your doing. I've seen some horrific sites of
> people
> > > modifying services programs and them crashing on an hourly basis.
> > >
> > > CPUMAN
> > > Serenia IRC Network
> > > irc.serenia.net
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Ballsy" <ballsy at mystical.net>
> > > To: "IRC Services General Mailing List"
<ircservices at ircservices.za.net>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 9:08 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [IRCServices] ircservices with hybrid
> > >
> > >
> > > > Do you think changing your IRCd will really decrease your
> > > > bandwidth utilisation an appreciable amount ?  Granted, I haven't
> tested
> > > > the differences in b/w utilization across different IRCds, but I
would
> > > > guess that the main difference you'll see is in CPU and memory
usage.
> > > >
> > > > David
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Quoth Nessun on May 6 at 01:44,
> > > >
> > > > > hi i run a net about 4000-5000 users and plan to expand as soon as
I
> > can
> > > change ircd as the one im using is eatcing up excess bandwidth. My
plans
> > are
> > > to change to hybrid which since epona(our current services) doesnt
> support
> > > hybrid this obviously brings up an issue. I am looking for 1 of 2
> options.
> > > > >
> > > > > 1st would be the best u could help me by knowing someone who has
> > > ircservices working with hybrid or would be willing to assist us with
it
> > and
> > > we could convert our database to ircservices
> > > > >
> > > > > 2. we continue our efforts to mod epona and hybrid to link up with
> one
> > > another.
> > > > >
> > > > > 3 is going ok but at this rate taking much too long than needed.
Our
> > > servers are using about 1 months worth of bandwidth in 20 days so we
are
> > > forced to either shut them off or pay serious overages. So the
decision
> we
> > > make must be expediant.
> > > > >
> > > > > Any assist u can give me with this will be very very appreciated.
I
> > ask
> > > that u please email me back even if its to say you dont have the time
i
> > will
> > > understand but prefer to hear that then wait for ever on nothing.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you in advance
> > > > >
> > > > > Irc.Rizon.Net
> > > > > Net Admin
> > > > > Nessun
> > > > >
> > > >
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