[IRCServices] ircservices with hybrid

Andrew Kempe andrewk at isdial.net
Tue May 6 09:08:40 PDT 2003


An afterthought....

You may want to consider how your network is architected and how your
servers and services are configured. You may find that by disabling a
certain features (such as those in custom versions of Services that allow
the pseudo-clients to join channels), you'll reduce your inter-server
traffic.

If you have frequent netsplits, change your routing to prevent the huge cost
of server-resyncs.

If you have many servers, get rid of a few in an effort to keep inter-server
communication for channels messages to a minimum. Fewer servers also means
fewer netsplits. If you can't avoid netsplits, get hold of an ircd that is
friendly when it comes to syncing the network - such as those that use SJOIN
rather than individual JOINS for each client or those that use tokens
instead of full SERVER<->SERVER commands. There are a number of ircds that
are compatible with IRC Services and employ these bandwidth saving
techniques.

Andrew

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nessun" <Nessun at rizon.net>
To: "IRC Services General Mailing List" <ircservices at ircservices.za.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: [IRCServices] ircservices with hybrid


> on the bandwidth a 1000 user client server is pushing 600 gigs a month
very
> abnormal for us i ran a net before and was pushing 200-300gigs a month on
a
> 2000 user client server both being warez nets. we have tested hybrid to
use
> literally 1/3 the bandwidth for us then viagra ircd(a bug fixed titan
ircd).
> and we 2 coders taht are extremly good at coding hybrid ircd and epona
> problem is my epona coder is too busy atm and hybrid coder trying to do
both
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "CPUMAN" <cpuman2000 at hotmail.com>
> To: "IRC Services General Mailing List" <ircservices at ircservices.za.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 9:35 AM
> Subject: Re: [IRCServices] ircservices with hybrid
>
>
> > Yah I'd have to agree with David on that. A 4,000-5,000 user network
> simply
> > is going to use a good amount of bandwidth. Changing IRCds would make a
> > minute bandwidth improvement at best. That is unless your current IRCd
is
> so
> > unbelievably inefficient that it's wasteful with bandwidth, which is
> > unlikely.
> >
> > As for converting a database it's fairly straight forward I don't
remember
> > the exact details on how to do it atm as I'm about brain dead atm (sleep
> > deprivation :P).
> >
> > I don't recommend you continue trying to hack Epona, unless you and your
> > staff really know what your doing. I've seen some horrific sites of
people
> > modifying services programs and them crashing on an hourly basis.
> >
> > CPUMAN
> > Serenia IRC Network
> > irc.serenia.net
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ballsy" <ballsy at mystical.net>
> > To: "IRC Services General Mailing List" <ircservices at ircservices.za.net>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 9:08 PM
> > Subject: Re: [IRCServices] ircservices with hybrid
> >
> >
> > > Do you think changing your IRCd will really decrease your
> > > bandwidth utilisation an appreciable amount ?  Granted, I haven't
tested
> > > the differences in b/w utilization across different IRCds, but I would
> > > guess that the main difference you'll see is in CPU and memory usage.
> > >
> > > David
> > >
> > >
> > > Quoth Nessun on May 6 at 01:44,
> > >
> > > > hi i run a net about 4000-5000 users and plan to expand as soon as I
> can
> > change ircd as the one im using is eatcing up excess bandwidth. My plans
> are
> > to change to hybrid which since epona(our current services) doesnt
support
> > hybrid this obviously brings up an issue. I am looking for 1 of 2
options.
> > > >
> > > > 1st would be the best u could help me by knowing someone who has
> > ircservices working with hybrid or would be willing to assist us with it
> and
> > we could convert our database to ircservices
> > > >
> > > > 2. we continue our efforts to mod epona and hybrid to link up with
one
> > another.
> > > >
> > > > 3 is going ok but at this rate taking much too long than needed. Our
> > servers are using about 1 months worth of bandwidth in 20 days so we are
> > forced to either shut them off or pay serious overages. So the decision
we
> > make must be expediant.
> > > >
> > > > Any assist u can give me with this will be very very appreciated. I
> ask
> > that u please email me back even if its to say you dont have the time i
> will
> > understand but prefer to hear that then wait for ever on nothing.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you in advance
> > > >
> > > > Irc.Rizon.Net
> > > > Net Admin
> > > > Nessun
> > > >
> > >
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