[IRCServices] forceload option automatically runs

Nick Gawronski nick at nickgawronski.com
Wed May 16 19:08:17 PDT 2007

Hi, It would be a nice thing just to remove the old version 4 database
support as with xml export import features there is really no need for
version 4 support.  For now it is a nice thing to have for users who
might want to still use the databases but really sometime soon it should
be removed.  Another thing I noticed is when I used the -export option
and I already had another copy of services running it tried to start the
httpd module and exitted with the bind error address already in use.  I
had to shutdown services, export the databases then restart version 5.0
again.  It would be nice if the -export or -import is given services
would just check and not load all of the modules just the ones for xml
export and or import so the already runing copy would not need to be
shutdown.On Thu, 17 May 2007, Andrew Church wrote:

> >Hi, One thing I noticed is that the forceload option could be just added
> >into the main code rather then an option.  If services sees corruption in
> >the databases it could just automatically load what ever it can understand
> >and ignore the rest of the database.  This would also help when restarting
> >ircservices as if no one is at the system or needs to restart ircservices
> >it could take care of the databases itself rather then needing to login to
> >the system and run a binary.  I could see this useful for ircops who don't
> >normally have access directly to the system where ircservices is running
> >but if they saw a need to restart ircservices they could do so with out
> >needing to contact the admin of the server if a database would not load
> >and services would not start.
>      The problem with this (and the reason -forceload is not the default
> in the first place) is that if some part of the database is corrupt,
> there's no telling how bad the situation is.  In the worst case, Services
> could be unable to load any data, then overwrite your database files with
> empty databases, destroying any chance you had of retrieving the data via
> other means (such as writing a program to extract the data).
>      In any case, -forceload is only supported for the database/version4
> module, and there only for certain databases (a corrupt oper.db, for
> example, will cause Services to abort whether -forceload is given or not).
> Moreover, due to the format of those database files, it's unlikely you'd
> be able to recover any data anyway under most circumstances.  I probably
> ought to just get rid of the option entirely.
>   --Andrew Church
>     achurch at achurch.org
>     http://achurch.org/
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