AW: [IRCServices] Addition for the command line...

[Chris]

Well, if you generated such an editor, if ANYBODY got a hold of your DB's
and had the editor,
there goes your stuff. There would have to be some sort of locking that
would only allow the databases owner to read it. Such as a password(?). How
to do this(or how much sense I'm making) I don't know.

Also... on the ./services -noakill thing...how about a timer? No akills
will be made within N seconds
set in the services.conf Sound good or not? I'm just throwing things out
here.
so If I have like

'NoAkillTime 30' in my services.conf and I do a './services -noakill' then
services would not make a single akill 30 seconds after they have
started.(may want to go higher than 30 to give it time to connect, etc.)

Just some ideas.

-Chris

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> From: Jonathan Morton <chromi at cyberspace.org>
> To: ircservices at delirious.shadowfire.org
> Subject: Re: AW: [IRCServices] Addition for the command line...
> Date: Sunday, June 25, 2000 2:00 PM
> 

<snip already posted material>

> 
> What happens if Services is started _after_ the admin is online?  Does it
> not check who is online at the moment it starts up?  Simply moving the
> akill.db is practically the same as deleting it, IMHO, as it can't be
> merged in while services is running, and it can't be edited without being
> connected to an IRC server with Services attached.
> 
> A workaround might be to move the akill.db to a small Linux box running
> Services and an ircd, and connect using "localhost" to avoid the
ISP-based
> AKILL.  Then the db can be edited safely, and moved back to the main
server
> when all is well.  The admin _should_ have telnet access to their server
> anyway, and it's easy to install a basic IRC client such as ircII on
> something standard enough to run an ircd and Services, so it might not
even
> be necessary to bring down the server or services, provided the admin has
> rights to _be_ the admin from localhost and no AKILL has been set on
same.
> Of course, if an AKILL has been set up on localhost and every other ISP
> that the admin has rights from (and an account on) then you're screwed
> anyway and will have to trash the akill.db (and preferably that lamer who
> set up the bans in the first place).
> 
> Perhaps an editor for the databases, that is independant of the IRC
> protocols, would be a good idea?  Since I assume the db's are in a
> simple(?) flat-file format, it shouldn't be too hard to generate such an
> editor, especially if source is culled from Services itself.  Such an
> editor could even eventually be made capable of partially fixing
corrupted
> databases, for those advanced users who know what they're doing (yes,
we've
> had a corrupt database before, we lost 2/3rds of the nick registrations
and
> correspondingly about 1/2 the channels disappeared with them).
> 
> Also, it might be an idea to introduce "exception-bans" in the style of
the
> +e channel-mode and the e:line in ircd.conf.  Setting an Exception on the
> admin staff (as a minimum) would make it impossible for such lame acivity
> to happen in the first place.  It's also handy for if you have just _one_
> un-lame regular user from a lamerz' ISP, then you can set an exception on
> him and AKILL the rest of the ISP.  It's always annoying when you have a
> lame ISP but one of your friends uses it.
> 
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