[IRCServices] I: service for ircu

Scott Seufert anarki at flamebait.org
Thu Jun 29 20:58:37 PDT 2000


on 6/29/00 8:20 PM, Kelmar K. Firesun at kfiresun at ix.netcom.com wrote:


<snip>

> Except for the point that I mentioned, which was stability on your network.
> Granted my conceptions about the Bahamut code might be misplaced, they may
> have made some significant improvements in that department sense I had last
> used Bahamut; however, those are my experiences.
> 
> I would like to state two things though.  One) The message I did send was in
> fect
> very much my opinion, and a mis-interpretation on my part of Andrew's
> original
> message.  Two) I feel I might wish to apologize if that message seemed at
> all
> inflammatory, this was by far _NOT_ my intent in the slightest.  I was
> merely
> expressing a concern I had, I also had, nor do I, or will I have any
> intentions
> of "demanding" that the current maintainers of Services do anything that I
> ask.
> I haven't hired them, and I'm by far not their source of breed and butter.
> If
> something happens where I absolutely cannot use the code, then I will simply
> write my own.  But why re-invent the wheel?
> 
> On the other hand, I think you confuse me with someone that constantly needs
> assistance with getting services to just merely run and someone that assists
> in maintaining the code.  While I do in fact run Services on my own network,
> I have
> also in the past (though not to any large extent) made suggestions,
> comments,
> and some code snippets in an effort to help make this program better.
> Should
> the need arise, and Andrew or Andy needed any additional help with coding,
> that
> I could provide them, I'm more than willing to do what I can.
> 
> In closing I would like to reiterate that this is an apology, and that I
> have
> no intention of starting a flame war.  (This is not an appropriate place for
> such
> things)  But I think we are both guilty of not looking before we leaped.
> 
> (Sorry about the long message folks)
> Bryce Simonds
> Kelmar K. Firesun
> 
> 

I too must apologize if my reply seemed saturated in with flamebait, I most
certainly did not mean it as such. Since my ill experiences with Chris
Birch, Opus(othernet bot author), I still vividly remember some of the
turmoil he has endevored to produce a free (GPL) product, such inflamitory
attitude from end users in general has shyed me away from learning to code
services. This negetivity has made me a little trigger happy when it comes
to seeingrequests that look like they may evolve into a "me me me" email.

My favorite thing to do is write mIRC bots. Bots are far easier for me than
any normal script will ever be, (if that makes since). I understand bots
completely, it took me about 7 days to understand an eggdrop bot inside and
out and at that time I was only on IRC for about a year. I have the concept
of services memorized to the point I could write a set of ircservices via
mIRC's scripting language, including a very basic password encryption
module, I know nothing as well as I know bots. This is one thing that
attracts me to services. I'd LOVE to be on a coding team of some sorts, but
my lack of knowledge in C/C++ prevents me from doing so.

I understand that there is very little comparing mIRC's language and a REAL
language such as C/C++ but I can still see a vast likeness is general, just
different syntax wise.


Scott
aka Anarki
aka katsklaw
Server Admin
NoDoze.ShadowFire.Org


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