[IRCServices] Feature Request - SVSMODE vs SVS2MODE with Unreal

[Andrew Church]

     I agree with Yusuf here--since the user can get their modes with /mode
anyway, there's no sense in having a command that hides the change from
them.  And even if there was, every other ircd with SVSMODE informs the
user upon an SVSMODE mode change, so if Unreal is going to make two
commands, they should make SVS2MODE the one that doesn't inform the user.
So the official answer is no, I'm not going to modify Services to support
this Unreal feature; if it bothers you, bug the Unreal developers until
they change/remove it.  (I'll be sending a message their way myself.)

  --Andrew Church
    achurch at achurch.org
    http://achurch.org/

>The view at the other end (the Unreal coders) is that it's
>a Services issue and not an ircd one. I tend to share that
>view - by having Services giving the option to choose
>between SVSMODE and SVS2MODE, it gives the end user much
>more choice.
>
>Unfortunately, judging by your reply, it looks like (for
>now anyway) the only solution will be to manually modify
>the unreal protocol module so that it uses SVS2MODE instead
>of SVSMODE. I'm not sure that everyone out there will have
>the necessary skill or programming knowledge to do that.
>
>K.T
>
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>Message: 4
>Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 16:54:57 +0100
>From: Yusuf Iskenderoglu <uhc0 at rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>
>Subject: Re: [IRCServices] Feature Request - SVSMODE vs
>SVS2MODE with
>Unreal
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>Since a user may inform themselves at ANY time using
>/mode <nickname>
>which modes they have,
>
>it makes absolutely no sense to distinguish between a
>SVSMODE and
>SVS2MODE, where the first hides the MODE change from the
>user, and the
>latter does not.
>
>Please ask your unreal coders to merge the whole content of
>SVS2MODE
>into SVSMODE and remove SVS2MODE completely.
>
>IMHO, this is a case services shall not handle.
>
>Regards;
>yusuf
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