[IRCServices] Question on usage of ChanServ ACCESS LIST

[PHANTOm]

On my network users who seek information from AKICK list will usually
request the full list or some kind of wildcard, almost none use
numbers for this command.
The access list command is commonly accessed by numbers but is access
by wildcards as well.
The os_akill command usually being accesses by wildcards to find
something specific but if an admin wants to view all results he may
use numbers to see next range, this may be replaced by some "next"
command.
The nickserv/chanserv list commands i think should be used the same
way (wildcards + first/prev/next/last commands), numbers in this case
may help not loose track when jumping between many pages and may also
help if new features will be developed (like dropnick with nick number
instead of the nickname, although this may be dangerous).
same goes for listemail.

I think since I use numbers mostly for navigation an alternative
method would eliminate the need for numbers.

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On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 13:26:19 JST, Andrew Church <achurch at achurch.org> wrote:
>      I'm currently working on unifying the usage formats of the various
> LIST-type commands available in Services (LIST, ACCESS LIST, AKILL LIST,
> etc.), and I'd like to get some information about how the commands,
> ChanServ's ACCESS (and AKICK) LIST in particular, are currently being used.
> 
>      In Services 5.0, there are three different styles of LIST command:
> 
> - NickServ ACCESS LIST:
>       LIST (no parameters, unlimited)
> - NickServ LIST/LISTEMAIL, ChanServ LIST, OperServ AKILL/EXCLUDE/SxLINE LIST:
>       LIST <wildcard-mask> (limited to NSListMax, CSListMax, or 50 entries)
> - ChanServ ACCESS/AKICK LIST, OperServ EXCEPTION LIST:
>       LIST {<wildcard-mask> | <number-list>}
> 
> I won't go into detail since discussion of development versions is
> off-topic for this list, but I'm working on merging all of these into a
> common format.  The major issue is how to handle numbered and numberless
> lists; the easiest thing to do is simply to drop support for using a number
> list with the LIST command, but I don't want to do that if it's a
> frequently-used feature.  So:
> 
>      (1) How do you (or your users, if you're an admin and aware of usage
> patterns) usually use the ChanServ ACCESS LIST and AKICK LIST commands:
> just plain LIST, LIST with a wildcard, or LIST with a list/range of
> numbers?
> 
>      (2) Would you object to having the ability to use numbers with the
> LIST command removed?  (The numbers would still be usable with DEL.)
> 
>      As a side note, the issue of whether to add numbers to lists that
> don't currently have them--nickname access lists, autokill lists, and so
> on--has been brought up before.  I haven't decided yet whether to do that,
> but it's a separate issue from this one, so please don't discuss it in
> this thread.
> 
>   --Andrew Church
>     achurch at achurch.org
>     http://achurch.org/
> 
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